But then again, unlike you, I have made no moral judgement of anybody whether it is Rupert or Jimmy for that matter. Lilianne Ploumen is a global abortion advocate who promotes activities intrinsically evil. Her papal recognition further raises the question concerning a pope who appears to be redefining Catholic doctrine.
Apropos, “Hardly a beacon of ‘True Catholic’ morality! A sneering comment concerning this DB, directed to all those who over the years have been challenged by you in their defence of Catholic orthodoxy. Oh no, I didn’t mean it that way...says Faz. Rubbish.
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: Rupert Murdoch. Hardly a beacon of 'True
: Catholic' morality! says Faz....that's a
: very bold and positive statement.
:
: Hardly either, Bertus.
:
: For example, to divorce and marry is clearly
: not a beacon of morality in a Catholic
: sense, but Rupert had already been divorced
: once when he received the gong from PJPII
: and was married to Patricia (a Catholic
: apparently), then divorced her soon after!
:
: Again, to paraphrase your own words: 'As
: this papal decoration is a relatively rare
: honour, it is inconceivable that PJPII was
: not fully aware of the background of Mr
: Murdoch prior to the award being made' (ie,
: your 'very bold and positive statement').
:
: As I'm not aware of what 'a beacon of 'True
: Catholic' morality'is nor have I ever heard
: the expression previously...what is it?
:
: In the context of this subject, something
: like 'personal service to the Holy See and
: to the Roman Catholic Church, through their
: unusual labors, their support of the Holy
: See, and their excellent examples set
: forth in their communities and their
: countries (from John's post )'.
:
: Rupert may very well fulfil this requirement
: despite not being an 'excellent example' in
: a Catholic sense.
:
: Without knowing much about the lady, I
: assume this also applies to Lilianne
: Ploumen.
:
: Or is it a figment of your imagination, just
: something that you've made up so as to
: destroy it and thus win an argument?
:
: LOL. You give me too much credit, Bertus!
:
: And how does this imaginative beacon as you
: so positively see permeating True Catholic,
: relate in your matter of judgement with the
: good name of Rupert Murdoch?
:
: Just to be clear, I meant True Catholic in
: the wider sense and not pertaining to this
: 'ere DB.
:
: But, to cut to the chase, if your inclined
: to ask 'wither goest thou' of Pope Francis,
: history surely shows that such questioning
: in relation to this award, applies to his
: predecessors?
:
: And by the way,
: With respect to Jimmy Saville, I note that
: award was made in 1990 and is at present
: subject to a request for annulment from the
: Archbishop of Westminster. Quite strange
: that you saw a need to mention him.
:
: I made the point that there were credible
: accusations against Savile long before the
: award and it's 'inconceivable that the Pope
: was not fully aware ...'
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