Posted by Bob Manning on October 16, 2009, 12:49 am, in reply to "Re: NICE VIDEO & K9"
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Thanks!
In responce to the first subject. Starting and working a dog in defense is tricky. If I have to have someone decoy for a dog that does not have a lot of experience at this work, I always try to give my explination of what I want them to do, so it errors on the safe side. ie at a distance, run at the first sighn of aggression, dont give him a bite yet, ect... we can always do more next round, but it is hard to undue an over due.
As far as not having access to experienced decoys, I have done a lot of work through out the years with out them my self. I think the key is trying to get as good a handle on the work yourself so the explanation you give to that inexperienced person doing your decoy work has a chance. I do a lot of trading decoy work for decoy work. "You want me to help you train your dog? Interested in learning to decoy?"
I don't get the starting a dog on equipment thing.
I have done it in years past when I was learning from people who had been doing it longer than me. But after trying to un-equipment fixate countless dogs. many of them patrol dogs. It just did not make sence to me. I thought about my roots which was, coon dogs, hogdogs then personal protection dogs (mostly started as adults in defense.)In that order. My first readings on the subject of PP were from the orange bible, and I begain to rethink it all. It is still evoleing, and probably to some degree always will be, but my style came to be. I use a prey object in my narcotics/explosive detection work, even with dual purpose dogs but I always make sure of three things. One is that it is only with the handler
and two that the dogs affinity for man is higher than for a toy and three that that prey item is never used even by the handler during bite work.
To me. To me, If a dog will call out from fighting a man, and recall for a bite on a tug, he does not in most cases view the man work like he should.
Hey, I will have to look for that book by Jay Rapp, It sounds good.
Bob
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