15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do his I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
This verse has always created dissension among its readers there being an awareness that Paul of Tarsus remains obsessed with his flaws, or sinful nature as he prefers to describe his human condition. Paul informs his readers that the things that he wants to do, he is forbidden from doing...and there are things that he does not want to do, and he is obliged to do...at The Spirit's request.
...The Spirit of God tests our trust in Him by ensuring that we do not follow the will of our flesh.
The Spirit of God tries our patience, testing our will to do things...our own way; for the flesh expects us to follow its timing. Here we recall the Prophet Job living the life of a good man, according to his agenda...not God's...and God reminding Job that it is His plan, and timing...not Job's that reveals the faithful child.
..and Abraham's wife, Sarah persuading Abraham to father a child with her servant, rather than wait for God to honour his promise to Abraham to provide Sarah with a child...according to His timing.
Timing is an important factor in our covenant relationship with Our Father, there being among many of us a lack of patience when waiting on God, to honour his promises...reminding us that we have a reciprocal relationship with our greatest friend who can never lie, mislead, deceive, or reverse His love of every human person.
Abraham's son Ishmael was born out of bondage, or dependency to the flesh, whereas Isaac's birth revealed to Abraham, and Sarah that God keeps his word...according to His timing.
When we live in the care of The Spirit the outcome of God's promises is always guaranteed according to His word.
The wise are well aware that hurrying through life is never a rewarding, or sensible choice.
Ecclesiastes 3 (NIV)
A Time for Everything
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens:
Posted by Pete on March 9, 2018, 8:22 pm, in reply to "God's timing"
Funny how, after all this TIME, we're still here "discussing"...
--Previous Message-- : Romans 7:15-20 (NIV) : : 15 I do not understand what I do. For what : I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I : do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, : I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, : it is no longer I myself who do it, but it : is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good : itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my : sinful nature. For I have the desire to do : what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 : For I do not do the good I want to do, but : the evil I do not want to do his I keep on : doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to : do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is : sin living in me that does it. : : This verse has always created dissension : among its readers there being an awareness : that Paul of Tarsus remains obsessed with : his flaws, or sinful nature as he prefers to : describe his human condition. Paul informs : his readers that the things that he wants to : do, he is forbidden from doing...and there : are things that he does not want to do, and : he is obliged to do...at The Spirit's : request. : : ...The Spirit of God tests our trust in Him : by ensuring that we do not follow the will : of our flesh. : : The Spirit of God tries our patience, : testing our will to do things...our own way; : for the flesh expects us to follow its : timing. Here we recall the Prophet Job : living the life of a good man, according to : his agenda...not God's...and God reminding : Job that it is His plan, and timing...not : Job's that reveals the faithful child. : : ..and Abraham's wife, Sarah persuading : Abraham to father a child with her servant, : rather than wait for God to honour his : promise to Abraham to provide Sarah with a : child...according to His timing. : : Timing is an important factor in our : covenant relationship with Our Father, there : being among many of us a lack of patience : when waiting on God, to honour his : promises...reminding us that we have a : reciprocal relationship with our greatest : friend who can never lie, mislead, deceive, : or reverse His love of every human person. : : Abraham's son Ishmael was born out of : bondage, or dependency to the flesh, whereas : Isaac's birth revealed to Abraham, and Sarah : that God keeps his word...according to His : timing. : : When we live in the care of The Spirit the : outcome of God's promises is always : guaranteed according to His word. : : The wise are well aware that hurrying : through life is never a rewarding, or : sensible choice. : : Ecclesiastes 3 (NIV) : : A Time for Everything : : There is a time for everything, and a : season for every activity under the heavens: : : : : https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+3&version=NIV : : end : : : : : :
At day's end
Posted by Alex Caughey on March 9, 2018, 8:44 pm, in reply to "15 years.. "
Hi Pete,
I'm an eager listener learning from my daily experiences that I am at the very beginning of my learning curve.
Time well spent is never lost when enjoyed.
“Dead yesterdays and unborn tomorrows, why fret about it, if today be sweet.” ~Omar Khayyám
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Re: At day's end..(15 years) and still I learn.
Posted by pip on March 11, 2018, 3:29 pm, in reply to "At day's end"
Thanks.
--Previous Message-- : Hi Pete, : : I'm an eager listener learning from my daily : experiences that I am at the very beginning : of my learning curve. : : Time well spent is never lost when enjoyed. : : “Dead yesterdays and unborn tomorrows, why : fret about it, if today be sweet.” ~Omar : Khayyám : : : : end :
Re: At day's end
Posted by Pete on March 15, 2018, 7:01 pm, in reply to "At day's end"
--Previous Message-- : Hi Pete, : : I'm an eager listener learning from my daily : experiences that I am at the very beginning : of my learning curve. : : Time well spent is never lost when enjoyed.
And time not enjoyed is well spent when it's offered up for the reparation of sins and conversion of sinners such as internet trolls who are possibly demonically posessed.
Pete
: : “Dead yesterdays and unborn tomorrows, why : fret about it, if today be sweet.” ~Omar : Khayyám : : : : end :