The rider is informative, isn’t it? His chattering is almost like boasting about attempting to circumvent the working of the Holy Spirit.
Anyway, the article commences:
Allies of Pope Francis are saying that he’s planning to follow the example of Benedict XVI and retire. But he’ll only do so once he’s appointed enough liberal cardinals to make sure that the next conclave doesn’t elected a conservative who will interpret Catholic doctrine more strictly than he does.
This, at least, is what allies of the Pope have been telling colleagues – claiming that they’ve heard it from the pontiff himself. (Francis himself is a notorious chatterbox and so are some of the cardinals close to him.)
The Pope, now 80, apparently wants to hold three more consistories at which he will bestow the red hat on bishops who share his vision of reform (whatever that may be: the details are still sketchy, four years in).
He could be gone in two or three years, raising the surreal possibility that we’ll have three living popes and ex-popes. (Benedict XVI looked pretty healthy when he celebrated his 90th birthday last weekend.)
--Previous Message-- : . :
Re: pope vusiting egypt as dangerous as coyne visiting econe
You're losing your mo-jo, John George. No posts for over 40 days. Have you been wandering in the desert? Poor old "True Catholic" is going the way of Mind and Heart and CathPews — sinkin' beneath the waves. We're getting worried at catholica as our competition is all disappearing.
That you have the numbers, that is, while we have to be satisfied with mere quality.
But I don’t think we were ever any competition for you. I mean your lot do fuzzy progressive just so well, you know, like "leadership in a society of equals" – a great oxymoron that! We just couldn’t compete with that stuff.
--Previous Message-- : You're losing your mo-jo, John George. No : posts for over 40 days. Have you been : wandering in the desert? Poor old "True : Catholic" is going the way of Mind and : Heart and CathPews — sinkin' beneath the : waves. We're getting worried at catholica as : our competition is all disappearing. :
catholica misnomer mispronounced by BC as kafolika = drab geriatric regurgitated whinge agin RCC
originally a postgonesillier enclave of juvenile delinquents now a st euthanasia nursing home for 1960's disgruntled has-beens =========================== COYNE HARD AT IT in juvenile days
--Previous Message-- : That you have the numbers, that is, while we : have to be satisfied with mere quality. : : But I don’t think we were ever any : competition for you. I mean your lot do : fuzzy progressive just so well, you know, : like "leadership in a society of : equals" – a great oxymoron that! We : just couldn’t compete with that stuff. : : : --Previous Message-- : You're losing your mo-jo, John George. No : posts for over 40 days. Have you been : wandering in the desert? Poor old "True : Catholic" is going the way of Mind and : Heart and CathPews — sinkin' beneath the : waves. We're getting worried at catholica as : our competition is all disappearing. : : :
But there is one thing you wrote that I agree with
It’s the piece George Haydock picked up from your previous post, namely:
if Francis could find just one intelligent and charismatic leader whom the people could again look up to for inspiration and with respect, the institution in this country could possibly be turned around in a very short order of time.
I agree – I think it could. However, obviously, your view of a suitable leader would differ greatly from mine.
But really, what is there to be turned around? Surely your lot are already in the ascendency. For instance, many more PPs subscribe to The Swag than to The Priest. Where is the “big challenge” Haydock claims you wrote of, but which I couldn’t find in your piece? Wherever it came from, what is the challenge? How much more of the Church would your lot like to see wrecked? Can’t you take yes for an answer?
--Previous Message-- : That you have the numbers, that is, while we : have to be satisfied with mere quality. : : But I don’t think we were ever any : competition for you. I mean your lot do : fuzzy progressive just so well, you know, : like "leadership in a society of : equals" – a great oxymoron that! We : just couldn’t compete with that stuff. : : : --Previous Message-- : You're losing your mo-jo, John George. No : posts for over 40 days. Have you been : wandering in the desert? Poor old "True : Catholic" is going the way of Mind and : Heart and CathPews — sinkin' beneath the : waves. We're getting worried at catholica as : our competition is all disappearing. : : :
To worry about us, that is. Fortunately, though, we are doing OK, as there are still quite a few clear and honest thinkers around for us to feed our minds on. By the Grace of God, we don’t have to settle for fluff like “leadership in a society of equals”.
Actually, on a very similar topic to Timbs’s lightweight foray, Fr Zuhlsdorf - There, I’ve done it – I’ve mentioned that name, so I guess you won’t be able to handle anything else I write, will you?
Anyway, if anyone is still reading, on a very similar topic to Timbs’s piece, Fr Z refers to an article in Commonweal that would be right up Timbs’s alley. I think you and Timbs would love this fuzz:
Hence, the need for priests, more properly known as presbyters; persons ordained and sanctioned by the church authorities (the bishops) to preside at the Eucharistic liturgy, the Mass.
Don’t you just love it – not priests to offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, but “presbyters … to preside at the Eucharistic liturgy, the Mass.”
After that reference, Fr Z goes on, in his customary fashion to point out the triteness of the article and indicate the true path back to the Church Christ established.
A while back I wrote that people get the priests that they deserve. Collectively, at least. Priests don’t just spring full grown from the heads of… cabbage.
Recently, a writer at hyper-liberal Commonweal suggested that vocations are down because his grand vision of the spirit of Vatican II was stifled by the baaaaad Popes John Paul and Benedict. If only we had more visionaries like Card. Kasper, we’d have more wonderful “presbyters” and sunshine and happy little puppies and more hugging, etc.
The problem is, in those places where his vision of the Church has been implemented in full force, hardly anyone goes to Church anymore and there are no vocations. What a wonderful success! Take Belgium, for example: 5% Mass attendance.
I remember some time back when there were no men admitted for one year to a major seminary for an archdiocese, they crowed about how effective their screening process was. Another success!
Many years ago my old pastor, Msgr. Schuler, commenting on the liberal trend in the archdiocese at that time and about how the powers-that-were were talking about priest-less parishes, quipped that they were like the Irish, sitting around talking about how to die rather than figuring out how to plant more crops.
Now I read this, about Ireland, another place where the liberal modernist spirit has for decades ravaged the land. This is from the Irish Times (with my emphases and comments):
No Mass to take place in Limerick diocese next Tuesday Fall-off in Catholic priesthood vocations leads to unprecedented situation
Masses will not be said at any church in the Diocese of Limerick next Tuesday, April 25th – the first time since Catholic Emancipation in 1829 that this has happened in any Irish diocese. Instead, there will be only lay-led liturgies of the Word (readings) and public prayers in churches, with no Mass and no Communion on that day. The lack of services in the Limerick diocese is directly related to the fall-off in priestly vocations, despite major efforts by the diocese to best use existing priests. [This is the reporter writing, granted, but note… “existing priests”.]
I’ll leave it there. Fr Z’s comments, as usual, are well worth reading, but only if you can handle the truth.
--Previous Message-- : You're losing your mo-jo, John George. No : posts for over 40 days. Have you been : wandering in the desert? Poor old "True : Catholic" is going the way of Mind and : Heart and CathPews — sinkin' beneath the : waves. We're getting worried at catholica as : our competition is all disappearing. :