Posted by father john george on February 27, 2017, 5:08 pm
Father John Michael George • 11 minutes ago
A]In 2008 Australia welcome and basked in the radiance of the Vatcan in mammoth plebiscite Around 500,000 welcomed the pope to Sydney and 270,000 watched the Stations of the Cross. More than 300,000 pilgrims camped out overnight in preparation for the Final Mass. The final attendance reported by Reuters was up to 300,000, however World Youth Day's Chief Operating Officer Danny Casey and other media reported over 400,000 attendees Well known atrocious clergy abuse made public,and no calls for expelling papal nuncio or pope It was reported that there were 107 Catholic priests and religious brothers sentenced in Australian courts on sex charges, and that in 2002, Australian bishops had already apologised for past abuses. B]The Pontiff left Australia after the farewell message of thanks by Rudd: "Today I announce that for the first time Australia will have a resident Ambassador to the Holy See in Rome. And today I announce that the Government will be recommending to his Excellency the Governor General the appointment of the former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia the Honourable Tim Fischer as Australia’s first resident Ambassador to the Holy See-[hardly ban Vatican] C]Nothing mealy mouthed about Vatican response!!!! On 19 July 2008, in Sydney's St. Mary's Cathedral, Pope Benedict XVI made a historic full apology for child sex abuse by priests and clergymen in Australia. Before a congregation of 3,400, he called for compensation and demanded punishment for those guilty of the "evil": "Here I would like to pause to acknowledge the shame which we have all felt as a result of the sexual abuse of minors by some clergy and religious in this country. I am deeply sorry for the pain and suffering the victims have endured and I assure them that, as their pastor, I too share in their suffering." The Pope added: "Victims should receive compassion and care, and those responsible for these evils must be brought to justice. These misdeeds, which constitute so grave a betrayal of trust, deserve unequivocal condemnation. I ask all of you to support and assist your bishops, and to work together with them in combating this evil. It is an urgent priority to promote a safer and more wholesome environment, especially for young people." D] On 21 July, before flying out of Australia Pope Benedict met with a group of four victims of sexual abuse at St. Mary's Cathedral in Sydney, listened to their stories and celebrated mass with them.
Re: mY MEDIA RESPONSE TO EXPELLING VATICAN NUNCIATURE
1] To jettison the Vatican Embassy is to share the stupidity of Stalin who quipped sardonically in 1933, "and how many armies has the Vatican?"
2] Saint Pope john Paul answered him decades later through Vatican Diplomatics resulting in the downfall of the Soviet Empire. 3] Stalin's decapitated statues and truncated black boots enstatue Moscow parks 4] When Hitler visited Rome in1938, Pope Pius XI closed museums[Hitler's fave] and Pope headed for Castel Gondolfo, as Pius noted "the air in Rome these days has suddenly become foul"[thus avoiding private audience witth Hitler 5] [Incidentally my Latin teacher[ then a student in Rome] lined seminary roof with cassocked seminarians. Father recounted to us with humorous bravado "as Hitler drove past-Hitler looked up at us I looked him sraight in the eye;he looked at me and he turned away first!!"[uproarious clapping from 1st year Latin class]
6] WW2 docs corroborate the Vatican as go-between for German plotters and Great Britain in attempt to assassinate Hitler[GB pulled out for fear of worse successor] 7] In 1943The tanks of the Third Reich rumbled along the Via Conciiazione to the Vatican border to face the might of the Swiss Guards with halberds and blunderbuss] 8]Pope Pius ordered guards not to fire-the Swiss Commander demanded to see the order in writing 9]The tanks reversed
10] Add to that a most fruitful secret litany of interventions on the international stage and at UNO
11]Expelling papal Nuncio from Australia is utter madness thereby jettisoning 2000 years of international wisdom and contemporary diplomatic influence second to none
CharonQC has recently reported that well-known Atheists (albeit the more accurate term is Rationalists) Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, with the aid of noted English lawyer, Geoffrey Robertson QC, intend to have the Pope Benedict arrested at his upcoming visit to Great Britain.
Not so fast, says Dapo Akande at EJIL: Talk! , who argues that the Pope is a Head of State and afforded state (or sovereign) immunity from any charges of crimes against humanity:
“ However, this attempt to get the Pope arrested and prosecuted in the UK has no chance of success as such an arrest would be in violation of international law. Likewise, the proposed prosecution by the International Criminal Court is most unlikely to get off the ground and similarly flawed as a matter of international law. However, these proposals raise some interesting issues of international law surrounding the status of the Pope, the Vatican and the Holy See. … since the Vatican is a State then the head of that State, the Pope, is entitled to head of State immunity under international law. This immunity is recognised by Section 20 of the UK’s State Immunity Act which extends to “a sovereign or other head of State”, the same immunities accorded to diplomats. These immunities are absolute in the case of criminal proceedings. In other words there are no exceptions to the immunity. The International Court of Justice’s decision in the Arrest Warrant Case (Congo v. Belgium) 2002 confirms that this type of immunity continues to apply even when it is alleged that the head of State has committed international crimes. So an allegation that the Pope may be responsible for crimes against humanity will not suffice to defeat his immunity. It should be noted that the immunity of a head of State from criminal prosecution in foreign States is there for very good reasons. In the first place, those State agents charged with the conduct of international relations are given immunity in order to allow international relations and international cooperation to continue to take place. Secondly, the immunity of foreign heads of States assures that just as States may not engage in regime change by armed force they may not achieve this end by criminal prosecutions either. It respects the fundamental autonomy of each State to determine who it is governed by.”
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