"Misericordia et misera is a phrase used by Saint Augustine in recounting the story of Jesus’ meeting with the woman taken in adultery (cf. Jn 8:1-11)"
Saint Augustine had this to say...
"And because she had heard this, “He that is without sin. let him first cast a stone at her,” (Jn 8:7b) she expected to be punished by Him in whom sin could not be found. But He, who had driven back her adversaries with the tongue of justice, raising the eyes of clemency towards her, asked her,
“Hath no man condemned thee?”
She answered, “No man, Lord.”
And He said, “Neither do I condemn thee;”...
(Jn 8:10-11a)
...by whom, perhaps, thou didst fear to be condemned, because in me thou hast not found sin. “Neither will I condemn thee.”
What is this, O Lord? Dost Thou therefore favor sins? Not so, evidently. Mark what follows:
“Go; henceforth, sin no more.”
(Jn 8:11b)
Therefore the Lord did also condemn, but He condemned sins, not man.
For if He were a patron of sin, He would say,
"Neither will I condemn thee; go, live as thou wilt: be secure in my deliverance; how much soever thou wilt sin, I will deliver thee from all punishment even of hell, and from the tormentors of the infernal world."
- He did not say this!"
http://textualcriticism.scienceontheweb.net/FATHERS/Augustine2.html
So there you have it Faz. According to our good and holy friend Saint Augustine DID CONDEMN...not the woman, but her SINS!
Pete
--Previous Message--
: Those who try and separate Mercy and
: Judgement. Mercy without judgment is
: meaningless. A woman and Jesus meet. She is
: an adulteress and, in the eyes of the Law,
: liable to be stoned. Jesus, through his
: preaching and the total gift of himself that
: would lead him to the Cross, returned the
: Mosaic Law to its true and original intent.
: Here what is central is not the law or legal
: justice, but the love of God, which is
: capable of looking into the heart of each
: person and seeing the deepest desire hidden
: there; God’s love must take primacy over
: all else . This Gospel account, however, is
: not an encounter of sin and judgement in the
: abstract, but of a sinner and her Saviour.
: Jesus looked that woman in the eye and read
: in her heart a desire to be understood,
: forgiven and set free. The misery of sin was
: clothed with the mercy of love. Jesus’ only
: judgement is one filled with mercy and
: compassion for the condition of this
: sinner. To those who wished to judge and
: condemn her to death, Jesus replies with a
: lengthy silence. His purpose was to let
: God’s voice be heard in the consciences not
: only of the woman, but also in those of her
: accusers, who drop their stones and one by
: one leave the scene (cf. Jn 8:9). Jesus then
: says: “Woman, where are they? Has no one
: condemned you?… Neither do I condemn you .
: Go your way and from now on do not sin
: again” (vv. 10-11). Jesus helps the woman to
: look to the future with hope and to make a
: new start in life. Henceforth, if she so
: desires, she can “walk in charity” (Eph
: 5:2). Once clothed in mercy, even if the
: inclination to sin remains, it is overcome
: by the love that makes it possible for her
: to look ahead and to live her life
: differently.
: (Misericordia Et Misera, 2016. My emphasis.)
: : Let's take another example, Matthew
: 23:1-39
: Pretty harsh, condemning words for the
: Pharisees..Was Jesus being NON-JUDGMENTAL
: then ?
:
: This continues the theme even more
: stridently.
:
: When Jesus encounters an individual labelled
: by society as a 'sinner' either in his
: ministry or via the stories he tells, he
: challenges those around him to look beyond
: judging and opt for mercy and compassion.
:
: But, as in the original story, Jesus
: reserves particular venom for those who seek
: to judge or condemn especially in the name
: of God. It is an explicit, consistent theme.
:
: It is in this context that Jesus later talks
: about those who would 'lead you astray' and
: those 'false prophets'.
:
: Yes, you're unfamiliar with the Amoris
: Laetitia controversy?
:
: Yes, but to call this a 'great debate' is,
: IMO, a great exaggeration.
:
: I suspect some of the teachings of Pope Leo
: XIII would have caused much greater
: consternation!
:
: Fortunately it's not up to some, it's not up
: to anybody..it's up to GOD and he
: communicates His Judgement through His
: Church...if you BELIEVE that ??
:
: I do my best, Pete.
:
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