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: No, he doesn't condemn the woman. I don't
: think anybody is saying that. He condemns
: her actions. Surely you're familiar with the
: expression "love the sinner, not the
: sin" !
:
: I am. But, again, Jesus makes no distinction
: about his condemnation. He simply doesn't
: condemn. It's very clear.
You're taking the NON-EXPLICIT condemnation of her behaviour as no condemnation. The condemnation is IMPLICIT.
:
: No, he would have said "Don't sin"
: but he said "Sin no MORE"..no MORE
: sins, so her previous actions WERE sinful ..
: (Crikey, do I really need to explain
: this??...you're a smart guy Faz!)
:
: I may or may not be 'smart' by your
: reckoning, that's beside the point. I have a
: different view to you.
It's not about a view. It's simple logic.
:
: Yes, so he judged her previous life.
:
: He could have, but he doesn't. The 'mob'
: attempts to, but Jesus confronts their
: judgementalism so profoundly, they withdraw.
: It's one of the key points of the story.
: It's a point of difference between the
: ministry of Jesus and those who would use
: religion to condemn (to the point of death
: by stoning!).
To state the obvious, we're obviously reading the story differently.
:
: Why is it not reasonable?
:
: Because He doesn't condemn in any sense .
: It is key to this story that Jesus, by word
: and action, does not condemn.
:
: Then why did he say SIN NO MORE ??
:
: He's inviting her to change her life, not
: out of condemnation. He shows her a
: different way. The mob wants to condemn,
: Jesus makes a point of not condemning.
OK, nothing wrong with her previous life..just time to be DIFFERENT, got it.
:
: Just as
: an add-on that had NOTHING to do with the
: attempted stoning incident??
:
: It has everything to do with the stoning
: incident. Jesus shows the women (and the
: mob) a new way, a way that is not about
: judgement and condemnation -- he
: specifically and unequivocally rejects this
: -- but about an invitation.
"Go on a NEW WAY that is DIFFERENT!" I'm getting the hang of this...
:
: C'mon Faz...to
: quote you, you're sounding a bit
: DESPERATE..ISH to avoid the obvious!
:
: Not sure what your quoting there.
:
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Pete
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