It probably is true in reverse, Hans; those of your point of view might well be encouraged that there are others who share that view, but that is not the point you were making. You were assuming that your side must be in the right because of superior numbers. I have twice now pointed out that the truth is the truth no matter how few its followers, and error is error no matter how great a multitude support it. Rectitude in the matter lies not with the numbers, but with the long-standing truths of the Faith. You claimed that my assertion of a spreading of the number of bishops supporting the four Cardinals indicated that I thought the number of votes was coming my way, when all I was saying is that it is a pleasure to see that others are on the right path; I’m pleased for their sake, not because I feel more justified in my position.
In regard to your assertion that it is “reasonable to assume that the vast majority of bishops and Cardinals do not share the view that there is 'confusion' or a lack of 'calm'”, you’re probably right, unfortunately. Either that, or they are too lazy to find out what their parishioners think, or they are too gutless to do their jobs. I find it hard to believe that they do not see that the loose wording of the Pope’s document is a cause of confusion and distress to their people – those who really care about the Faith, that is; they are better educated in the Faith than the people, and should be able to discern more easily the ambiguity in the Pope’s words than the laity, and realise that many of the laity are capable of detecting the discrepancies between the document and their previous understanding of the Faith.
The Cardinals haven’t established their case?????????? Have you actually read their submission to the Pope? You should do so before making such statement, or any assertions about the matter.
As for Cardinal Müller, when he wrote the following passage, he passed out of the solution set into the problem set: December 1, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – The Church’s highest authority on doctrinal matters besides the pope, Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, says his Congregation will not answer the four Cardinals who have formulated their doubts (dubia) regarding Amoris Laetitia until further notice.
”cannot be interpreted”? Blind Freddy knows that such interpretations were springing up all over the world.
The Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith explained in an interview with Kathpress on Thursday that his congregation “acts and speaks” with the authority of the Pope and cannot take part “in a difference of opinion.”
The Prefect sees the danger of a “polarization” between camps in the Church. Müller explains that the letter with the five dubia had been written to the Pope directly – before its publication – and Pope Francis could still give the CDF the commission to resolve the tension. The CDF is in charge of all matters regarding the faith in the Catholic Church and is highest authority therein.
“At the moment it is important for each one of us to stay focused and objective and not to be driven into polemics, much less create them,” Müller goes on. Regarding the passages of Amoris Laetitia that created confusion he does not comment. Instead he points out that documents cannot be interpreted in a way that refutes previous teachings of the Popes or of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith.
Many thanks for your Christmas wishes.
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: Surely it is true in reverse, John? If the
: numbers are 'encouraging' for the point of
: view you have sympathies with, is it not
: more so for those who have a different
: opinion?
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: Again, using the same logic, isn't it
: reasonable to assume that the vast majority
: of bishops and Cardinals do not share the
: view that there is 'confusion' or a lack of
: 'calm'.
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: I don't think it is bad for the Cardinals to
: question things. As you say, it is their
: duty if they feel there is an issue. But it
: seems that they haven't established their
: case and, if there were doubts, Cardinal
: Müller's words reassure the faithful.
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: Ich wünsche Ihnen ein glückliches und
: heiliges Weihnachten
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